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Premature "Twins" - GRAPHIC Update May 23, 2011
Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 11:22 am
by Jeff
I hope this doesn't disturb anyone, but I thought it was worth posting. This morning I weighed all of my gravid females as I do every week. I didn't notice anything unusual at that time, but about two hours later when I was removing the cypress mulch substrate from all of their enclosures, I found this.
I was removing the substrate and replacing it with carpet because the first of my females should start giving birth in between 12 - 19 days.
It is interesting that the two of these babies are both attached to the same placenta. When I picked up the placenta, the umbilical cords were strong enough to hold the weight of the babies. I am assuming that this means these two are twins.
The mother of these mated for the first time last year, but did not give birth to any babies. I will be monitoring her closely to see what happens next.
Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 11:46 am
by Coomassie
Keep us updated on Mom. I'm curious to see if she has any other babies.
Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 2:38 pm
by Susann
How incredibly sad, but amazing at the same time!
And, if I may say so, according to the Bluey Bible, it's a yolk-sac, not a placenta.
They look like they are still surrounded by a thin membrane or sac, is this correct? I would have imagined there to be more fluid inside... and also that the yolk-sac would be inside this membrane...?
Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 4:30 am
by Alioop
This is really interesting. Thanks for sharing it Jeff, please keep us posted on Momma Skink's progress.
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 8:56 pm
by Zach
Thank for posting, Jeff. It's tough to discover, but as breeders, will eventually run into things like this.
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 9:03 pm
by Katrina
Yes - thanks for posting. This is very interesting. Any updates on the mother?
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 6:27 am
by Jeff
The mother is behaving the same as she did before delivering the two still born babies. There is no indication that there is anything wrong with her, and I have no idea if she is carrying more babies or not. I would be surprised if she only had two fertilized eggs though, because she mated with a proven male 8 times. She is not huge like some females get but she is noticeably bulkier than she normally is. I will know one way or the other in a few weeks.
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 7:28 pm
by Jeff
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 7:58 pm
by Nae
Aaaw, they are so cute, congrats! Its such a shame about the first two, but its quite interesting.
Wondering, what exactly are slugs?
Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 5:35 pm
by Richard.C
nae,slugs are unfertilised ova,eg if they are fertilised then they are babies,if not they pop out slugs
i havnt had twins to my knowledge before,but my main alpine female once had premature babies,only 2 babies were born alive,they were extremely transparent,and died 4 and 6 weeks later unfortunatly,alot of the time slugs go unnoticed as the mother normally eats them,if not a cage mate,glad mums ok jeff and had a few healthy looking ones,thanks for sharing
Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 7:23 pm
by Nae
Ah, I see, thank you!
Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 7:35 pm
by dsteamn
So so interesting. Thanks for posting - and congrats on the little ones.
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:56 am
by Raven_Vivi
grats on the babies!!!
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 6:05 pm
by SapphireTigress1
interesting, thanks for sharing, too bad about the babies, but grats for the healthy ones
