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Lights and Temp

Postby mom22wins » Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:50 pm

I know this question has been asked a million times on here in various different ways but I am asking again! lol :)

I am all set up with my terrarium and all the little odds and ends that go with it. (See my terrarium in the photo section) Anyway, I've been going back and forth with the lights due to the temps I'm getting in the tank.

I had a 9 watt Spiral Compact Flourescent light bulb that lit up the place without causing alot of heat. It was perfect but then I found out that it doesn't give off the UVB rays that I need.

Now I am using a little 15 Watt UVB bulb. It's the lowest wattage I could find. It's making the tank 80 to 85 degrees and it's pretty dim in there now. Plus, I had to get a dimmer switch to adjust the temp on the basking spot below 105. Now, at the lowest setting with a 40Watt basking bulb, I still get around 100 - 103 over there.

So now the whole tank is a little hot and it looks too dimly lit. It looks like nighttime lighting. :doh: I wish I could get this right... :cry:
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Postby MartinsPerson » Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:05 pm

I like to use fish tank lights to add a little light to my tanks. Or you could try not using the UVB bulb and just take your baby outside a lot. Another option might be to elevate the bulb above the tank some. That way it brings the heat away from the tank, and spreads the area that is lit. Good luck!
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Postby Leigh » Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:23 am

Is there any chance you could put more ventilation in the set up?
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Postby JWSR » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:40 am

If you're going to be using an analog thermometer like I see on the back wall of your enclosure, you need to move it down to nearly touching the substrate. Right now, you are measuring the temp of that one side way up near the top where all the heat rises to. You need to measure where the skink lives, down at the bottom. There will probably be about an 8 degree difference. Also, these thermometers can be as much as 3 to 8 degrees off unless you calibrate them before use. I use them for ambient temperature only in the middle of the cage. There's nothing better, in my opinion, than the dual probe digital thermometer from BigAppleHerp.com One probe lays on the substrate on the hot side and one on the cool side. The readout unit sits outside showing both digital readings. It really makes temp management a lot easier.

On another note; a rheostat (dimmer switch) does nothing for maintaining a constant reliable temperature. It only providea a constant wattage to the heating element/light bulb. This means that if your room temp rises, so does the cage temp. The same if it lowers. A thermostat is what you need to keep things right.

I'll simplify a heat management system for you. Or, at least I'll try...........

For that enclosure, which I believe is the same 65 gal. I've got for Irwin (as soon as he's big enough to move in) you will want one bulb, spot or flood diretly above his basking rock or log. Wattage is something you might have to experiment with. You'll want a wattage that will get the basking rock about right, while not over heating the warm end of the cage. This is where a digital TempGun is great to have. You want to get the basking surface to about 95 to 100 degrees. But, at the same time, this light is going to be adding some heat to the entire warm side of the cage. If the light warms the basking rock just right, but gets that side of the cage too hot, you need to lower the wattage of the bulb and raise the height of the basking rock. You want to have another dome near your light dome. But, in this one, have a 150 watt. ceramic heating element on a thermostat with the sensor lying on the warm side substrate. This will regulate your overall warm side temp. Turn up the thermostat until the temp gets right on that side of the cage, then turn it back just until it clicks off, then you're set and ready to check the cool side. 9 times out of 10, it should be just about right. If too cool, another ceramic element on a thermostat over there set at about 80 will do the trick. All bulbs and elements plugged into a good timer, on 12 to 14, and off 10 to 12 and you're set.

You will usually find that once you get that pesky basking rock right, that it will usually stay within about 3 degrees up or down. The main temps you want to be fairly critical of are left and right substrate temps, where your bluey lives, except when basking.

I hope I've been of some help and haven't confused you further.

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Postby boonaen » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:34 am

i suppose you have a heat lamp and a UVB?

i had the worst time with this, but one day, it just started working.

how far off the "rock" is your heat lamp? and is it pointing strait down, or at an angle?
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Postby mom22wins » Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:08 pm

Hey guys,

Thanks for all the replies. I went ahead and replaced the spiral light with a 14Watt light bulb that says UVB on it. For a while there I was concerned because the tank was very dim but still getting too hot and so was the basking area. Then I had a moment of clarity. :shock: I mounted the basking light up about 4 1/2 inches above the terrarium and that solved the problem! That simple. Sometimes I make things more complicated than they actually are... :doh: Then I read this thread and Martinsperson gave me the same advice! I wish my computer had been working earlier and I would've known that earlier! lol This thing is kicking me offline lately. :cry: By the way, I do plan to take her outside on occasion especially now that we're having 90 degree whether here.

Hi Leigh,

I have a screen top on my terrarium but the only other ventilation I could provide would be a little fan maybe? If it ever comes to that, I'll be sure to ask everyone what they think first! lol Can't make a move without checking with the experts on here first! :wink:

Jerry,

You gave me so many good ideas, I'm going to print your reply out so I can refer to it later. Thanks for the advice about moving my temp gauge. I have a Tempgun on order but it hasn't made it here yet. I'm sure things will be alot simpler when that gets here.

boonaen,

I've seen your set up and it looks like you did an absolutely fabulous job preparing for your BTS. I know what you mean about the lighting and heat being wacky but I think it has finally worked itself out.

Thanks again everyone!

My baby is coming Tuesday!!! :ohyes:
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Postby JWSR » Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:07 pm

Will you be able to sleep between now and tuesday? :lol: :spot:
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Postby mom22wins » Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:24 pm

NOT! :shock:
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