Stunting a bluey's growth?

Everything Blue Tongues! Have a question? Just got a BTS and want to introduce yourself? This is the place!
Forum rules
In this forum all are welcome to ask blue tongue skink-related questions, share information, ideas, tips, experiences, and pictures with fellow BTS enthusiasts.
If you are wondering if your BTS is acting normally or might be sick, this is where you can get help with that.
This is also where you can have some FUN while sharing the enjoyment you get from your blueys!
User avatar
sheslikeheroin
Bluey Addict
Bluey Addict
Posts: 552
Joined: Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:35 pm
Country:
Location: Canada, saskatchewan

Stunting a bluey's growth?

Postby sheslikeheroin » Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:02 pm

Fatal were talking about our (technically her) newly aqquired skink. i just took his svl and his full body lengths. svl = 9 inches and fully body is 14.5. as we are trying to work out his age figuring it to close to her others (almost a year), But I was wondering is it possible to stunt bluey's like other reptiles. I am wondering this because skids was fed foods with poor nutrition levels plus alot of mice and kept in a relativley small cage could he be a two year old skink and only 14.5 inches long? this is likely a stupid question, but thanks for any help.


(Note) in case any member misinterprets this post, No I am not planning to attempt stunting a bluey. this is purely a hypothetical question.
Last edited by sheslikeheroin on Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.
We give what we take, when we take nothing.
User avatar
Leigh
Leigh of the Law
Leigh of the Law
Posts: 6695
Joined: Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:23 am
Country:
Location: Bristol, England

Postby Leigh » Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:00 am

It is possible, but you generally get other health issues as well.
MMMmmmmm... Something???????
ssr
Bluey Addict
Bluey Addict
Posts: 964
Joined: Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:34 pm
Country:
Location: Iowa

Postby ssr » Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:31 am

I'm glad you asked this question. I have been wondering the same thing. The skink I just aquired is 14 1/2" long and is at least 3 years old. She also was in a too small enclosure with poor nutrition. At what age is a skink at its mature size?
Serena
User avatar
Fatal_S
Take Flight
Take Flight
Posts: 8391
Joined: Mon Dec 05, 2005 3:40 pm
Your Facebook name: Mel's Exotics
Country: Canada
Location: Manitoba
Contact:

Postby Fatal_S » Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:49 am

Ssr, what kind of skink do you have?
ssr
Bluey Addict
Bluey Addict
Posts: 964
Joined: Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:34 pm
Country:
Location: Iowa

Postby ssr » Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:19 pm

We (you, me and another forum member) decided that she was probably an IJ. You may remember her pictures under the "I brought her home" thread. I emailed you on how to post the pictures and edit the thread. You were nice (I know you claim not to be!!!!!!) and emailed me back with instructions.
Serena
User avatar
Fatal_S
Take Flight
Take Flight
Posts: 8391
Joined: Mon Dec 05, 2005 3:40 pm
Your Facebook name: Mel's Exotics
Country: Canada
Location: Manitoba
Contact:

Postby Fatal_S » Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:53 pm

Shh! Tell no one about my odd-moments! It wasn't me, I swear!

IJs tend to have a bit slower growth rate than northerns. Apparently they're more like easterns. However a 3+ year old IJ should probably be larger than 14.5in. If it was brumated and fed less, I can understand not being full size at 3. Has it been growing with you?

I can think about some of this stuff, but a good answer will need someone else.
NomadOfTheHills
The Scout
The Scout
Posts: 1342
Joined: Sun Apr 25, 2004 2:07 pm
Country:

Postby NomadOfTheHills » Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:49 pm

Tank size doesn't affect growth, improper husbandry does.

Reptiles never stop growing (their rate just decreases, so it is possible to get some nice growth with proper husbandry and lots of food.
User avatar
sheslikeheroin
Bluey Addict
Bluey Addict
Posts: 552
Joined: Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:35 pm
Country:
Location: Canada, saskatchewan

Postby sheslikeheroin » Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:26 pm

[quote="NomadOfTheHills"]
Reptiles never stop growing (their rate just decreases) [quote]

that I knew.

I was just wondering if a blueys growth was similar to snakes, for instance my red rat cross is a very small at 3.25 feet, he was kept in a small enclosure and fed not very much, so he is small but not growing at a noticeable rate, even though he's getting 2-3 mice every week and a half too two weeks. or my snow corn 4.5 feet only 3 months younger than my anerythristic who is 5'9" the only differance is that she had a larger enclosure earlier.

though my anery was a foot bigger when i got her my snow caught up quickly. they were more or less even sized till i gave my big girl the larger cage, at which point she grew an enormous amount (almost 3 feet) where as my snow only grew one foot. i have always from personal experience thought that enclosure size played a great role in their growth.
We give what we take, when we take nothing.
User avatar
Katrina
The Daredevil
The Daredevil
Posts: 9769
Joined: Sun Dec 02, 2007 3:34 pm
Country:
Location: Alberta, Canada

Postby Katrina » Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:54 pm

Thats really interesting... How large do corns tend to be in the wild? Obviously food is not as reliable in the wild.

I'm really interested to know how much enclosure size plays a role in size. Good luck with getting the little one growing!
User avatar
sheslikeheroin
Bluey Addict
Bluey Addict
Posts: 552
Joined: Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:35 pm
Country:
Location: Canada, saskatchewan

Postby sheslikeheroin » Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:47 pm

katrina: corns tend to max out at 4 1/2 feet in the wild though i have heard accounts of the odd one reaching 5. captive corns tend to be anywhere from 4 1/2 to 5 1/2 feet, anything above that is abnormal (don't tell Athena my big girl i said that) the record for largest captive corn snake is 6'6"
We give what we take, when we take nothing.
NomadOfTheHills
The Scout
The Scout
Posts: 1342
Joined: Sun Apr 25, 2004 2:07 pm
Country:

Postby NomadOfTheHills » Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:56 pm

Nope, cage size does not directly affect growth. It may INdirectly, via improper thermogradients.

Corns are very variable in size, ome grow large, some grow small. The fact that they are not from the same clutch means (and even then) you really can't compare their growth and base that on cage size.
ssr
Bluey Addict
Bluey Addict
Posts: 964
Joined: Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:34 pm
Country:
Location: Iowa

Postby ssr » Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:40 am

Fatal_S--Your secret is safe with me! :devil: I have only had her a couple of weeks so too soon to tell about growth. Nomad says that reptiles never stop growing so sounds like with proper husbandry and nutrition I can look forward to her growing more. :D
User avatar
Katrina
The Daredevil
The Daredevil
Posts: 9769
Joined: Sun Dec 02, 2007 3:34 pm
Country:
Location: Alberta, Canada

Postby Katrina » Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:12 am

Thanks for all the answers everyone!

Nomad - even in a very small enclosure, their growth would not be limited by the size of it, but just by the food and their ability to find the correct thermogradient?

How much does family and genes play into the size factor? Are siblings usually similar in size or does it vary?

Thanks again everyone!!

Return to “General Discussion and FAQ”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 139 guests