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Postby Lucifer_Spades » Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:14 am

Leigh wrote: Lucifer Spades If you had to answer the same question 400 times a year for 3 years would you write an essay answer every time? think not, the only way would be to have a generic reply to the same question each time it was posted, not good reading for time served members is it!!
I'm a relative newbie but even I can see the repetativeness in some posts



:scratch: I'm not sure you read my posts right. I was siding with the mods on this.
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Postby Richard.C » Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:33 am

hiya luce,think he means in regards to eds answers,eg can i...yes should i..no,edward has probably seen the same thread upteen many times so just gave a brief answer,which is fine,as he answered what he thinks,but may have on another same thread given more of a reason as to why in his answers,lol,not saying that u would write an essay each time u answered the same question,same with the care sheet as well,i actually like the length of the care sheet,wish it was even longer,u can never havr to much info and we are all always learning,be awsome if there was a bluey book just on the captive care and breeding of them,i havnt read the bluey bible but have just ordered it from a supplier in aus,cant wait to read it
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Postby Lucifer_Spades » Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:08 am

I also defended eds answers. I know my posts rambled a lot last night. sorry.
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Postby 2BTS's » Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:21 am

Alrighty then...long! At of all this I think (which I already said I will not cross breed) and fight to help others not either. I think with selective breeding you would have to watch the health of the animals. I don't plan on doing now, but maybe in the future. I wish I had room to pick up a few different breeds of BTS's!
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Postby Zach » Sat Jun 02, 2007 1:07 am

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Deftones2015 wrote:I'm sorry but I don't personally see zach, edward or any of these people as particularly knowledgeable. How many of them bust their butts like Andrew does just to support his passion?


I honestly see them as very knowledgeable. Who wrote the caresheet? Who provides this forum/website at no cost to its members? I personally have never talked to Edward in a PM, email, or even had a discussion with him in a forum thread (that I can think of), but I do know that he used to own westerns and from everything I have seen him post, he is very knowledgeable when it comes to Blueys. I have emailed/PMed Zach, Ray, and Andrew (and many others) several times and I have ALWAYS received a response back from them within a reasonable amount of time.



Yeah, we wrote the caresheet and threw up this site for free...maybe we should charge for our email responses and take down the forum! We'd be rich! Alas, there will always be those who just can't be satisfied.

Also Brian, I don't know who you're talking about, but it sounds like I am included. If I give an unsatisfactory response to some email, for gosh sakes, let me know. I also get....you don't want to know how many questions I get that are RIDICULOUS. I try to thoroughly answer questions that are good questions. But if someone emails me asking what BTS eat....I give them the link to the caresheet which by the way, I'm not sure why you think the people who wrote it aren't knowledgeable. A lot of time went into it and it's not something anyone pulled out of their butt. ;)

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Postby Colin Hamilton » Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:15 am

What a read LOLz,your carrying on like a pork chop Blotch,if the answers arne not to your liking go and ring your mates at melbourne zoo :P Can bluetongues be exported overseas,yes,but between proffessional establishments for reaons such as education or breeding etc.Why hybridize when we have albino pure eastern and melaanistic pure easterns etc.There is no reason to hybridize in australia or other parts of the world for that matter,nigrolutea alpine form and scicoides have been bred by worrell and longley and the young were fertile producing for several generations.Now why would someone put a great looking alpine with something else anyway,what your going to get will be inferior to the alpine in my oppinion.Hybrid debates always end up in arguments,most people wherever they live like to keep within species and subspecies,can you yes.should you no,god starve the lizards EDD go to the top of the class!! :teach: :lol:
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Postby DeadEye » Sat Jun 02, 2007 4:04 am

Yes it isn,t my cup of tea , everything ive read is of the same thinking .Hence on our licence we cannot cross a denham shark bay Shingle with a Tilqua rugosa rugosa . Or Tiliqua Konowi . Personally i think it would ruin both great parts of each skink . Stuff preety colours Just my opinion Dont get into it :?


Our Licence system is very strict in my state, you would lose your licene for life for xross breeding..And Iam glad cause kids buy a centralian. Then they say he lives in the shed ,and his lights broke ..Whats wrong with him..Then he die,s ..Ive seen it to many times , there not toys i tell my youngest boy..There little dinosours handle em like eggs ... LOL :lol:
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Postby Chase » Sat Jun 02, 2007 12:52 pm

deftones2015 wrote:I'm sorry but I don't personally see zach, edward or any of these people as particularly knowledgeable. How many of them bust their butts like Andrew does just to support his passion? How many work 3 jobs, respond to e-mails, answer questions on this site, breed, and write papers about blueys? I DO NOT I mean do NOT want to drag him into this by ANY means. I am just stating, the people who DO know A LOT about blue tongues are the ones we should be sucking up too, not these people who think we're lower than them bc we don't know as much. I have NEVER been talked down too by him. He has always answered my questions completely and thoroughly. And in this day of age where people are offended by so many words, maybe people should be a little more careful! You say they are here to teach us and help us for the betterment of blueys everywhere? How does his answer even better anything with the blueys? More than likely it's going to make someone angry, or just not care, then they're going to go do what they want anyway. I am DONE seriously I am DONE. I GUARANTEE that if I were a moderator you would not be saying the same thing. If the roles were turned you would be sucking up to me. So how is THAT for brown nosing!? :stuckup:


Deftones are you being a moron on purpose or just blissfully ignorant? How would you have any idea how knowledgeable any of those people you just listed are. You just joined these forums in freakin march. These people have been keeping blue tongues their entires lives. But of course with your 150 posts and three months of experience you are practically a bona fide expert. Maybe you should think next time before you type thoughtless comments with absolutely no base.

You said you were done and going stay out of this argument before it got ugly. So I suggest you do as you said earlier and quit posting inflammatory comments.

By the way, andrew is very knowledgeable and I'm sure he would agree that edward and zach are both also very knowledgeable.
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Postby KyleWeiss » Sat Jun 02, 2007 5:05 pm

Blotch wrote:Uhh with all due respect kyle - you are no better than anyone here so come down a few pegs mate. They're the kind of comments no-one needs to read.


That's too bad you feel you're down a few notches. :noknow: Besides, senses of humor usually get us through the sticky stuff in life, mate. :2thumbs:

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Postby KyleWeiss » Sat Jun 02, 2007 5:07 pm

Chase wrote:
(A.) You said you were done and going stay out of this argument before it got ugly. So I suggest you do as you said earlier and quit posting inflammatory comments.

(B.) By the way, andrew is very knowledgeable and I'm sure he would agree that edward and zach are both also very knowledgeable.


[A.] Interesting point...

[B.] ...also agreed!

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Postby Richard.C » Sat Jun 02, 2007 9:40 pm

so to answer your question : yes u can
but no u shouldnt
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why mess with perfection anyways :lol:
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Re: re Can

Postby Blotch » Sat Jun 02, 2007 10:42 pm

Colin Hamilton wrote:What a read LOLz,your carrying on like a pork chop Blotch,if the answers arne not to your liking go and ring your mates at melbourne zoo :P Can bluetongues be exported overseas,yes,but between proffessional establishments for reaons such as education or breeding etc.Why hybridize when we have albino pure eastern and melaanistic pure easterns etc.There is no reason to hybridize in australia or other parts of the world for that matter,nigrolutea alpine form and scicoides have been bred by worrell and longley and the young were fertile producing for several generations.Now why would someone put a great looking alpine with something else anyway,what your going to get will be inferior to the alpine in my oppinion.Hybrid debates always end up in arguments,most people wherever they live like to keep within species and subspecies,can you yes.should you no,god starve the lizards EDD go to the top of the class!! :teach: :lol:


Uhh colin, did you actually read anything I wrote? I'm not arguing for hybrids - i answered a question, then had my opinion on edwards answer. Then i was attacked for doing so. Go back and read dude, I stated a few times - i'm neither for nor against. And how does a Pork chop carry on exactly? :P I don't really give 2 hoots about this - just about how people are reacting to a question, and even then - my care factor for people on here is fairly low. If a make a friend - bonus. I'm out - no more responses from me.
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Postby DeadEye » Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:05 pm

KyleWeiss wrote:
Blotch wrote:Uhh with all due respect kyle - you are no better than anyone here so come down a few pegs mate. They're the kind of comments no-one needs to read.


That's too bad you feel you're down a few notches. :noknow: Besides, senses of humor usually get us through the sticky stuff in life, mate. :2thumbs:

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Ill Back ya up there Kyle but its right OT ..I Ask all the special forces freinds how did you get to be in the S.A.S ,they all say Not from a bigger brain, Just common sence under stress, fightness .But most of all you must have an ORSM sence of humour :wink: Is looked for above how many push ups you can do. or how strong you are.How long you can endure hardship .The whole dam secret is having a great sence of humour counts in the top 5 % of people picked for special forces A great sence of humour is paramount , when shells & motors are raining from the sky . Its shows ya have a special advantage in extremely crazy situations . If your sence of homour is 100% it gets you thru :lol:
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