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My new BTS!!!

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:13 am
by vincenzoo
Hello!
There are my new BTS that I bought yesterday at my association's reptile tarde show in Illkirch (France)... there was not a lot of skinks, some tannies but not very cute and that's all... These are strange, the german exponant called them Tiliqua scincoides intermedia, but I wonder if they (or their parents) were not hybridized with tilqiua scincoides scincoides... They have a "northern" look (head, tail), but pattern have eastern traits (colors are more clear, they are a little bit too black on the picture!)... I will see what their babies done next year!!!!

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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:06 am
by Tattoo
So sweet. :lovestruck: Congrats on your new pair!

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:11 am
by Leigh
They do look a little Northern/IJ to me :noknow:

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:16 am
by Fatal_S
Not to be rude, but you acknowledge that these are hybrids, yet you're going to breed them anyways? What are you going to sell the babies as? Wouldn't it be better to work harder at finding some pure sub-species and breeding those?

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:13 pm
by Zach
Don't breed them!

The one on the right is Irian Jaya, and the one on the left looks part scincoides.

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:29 pm
by vincenzoo
At the left it seems to be a female, on the right, a male...
You think it's pure IJ and pure eastern??? I've got IJ and eastern too...

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:02 pm
by Fatal_S
These skinks are confusing, almost like a smorgusboard of subspecies. They don't look pure at all to me, but that's no guaranteed analysis.

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:51 pm
by Zach
vincenzoo wrote:At the left it seems to be a female, on the right, a male...
You think it's pure IJ and pure eastern??? I've got IJ and eastern too...



No, the right one is IJ, and the left one I believe is a mix. Probably IJxNorthern.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:40 pm
by vincenzoo
I've got the answer from the original breeder, it's IJ x northern (they're coming from the same parents)...
And don't worry, I'll don't breed them...

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:40 pm
by NomadOfTheHills
They are both IJx Northern?


Either way, nice skinks.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:56 pm
by KyleWeiss
Zach wrote:
vincenzoo wrote:At the left it seems to be a female, on the right, a male...
You think it's pure IJ and pure eastern??? I've got IJ and eastern too...



No, the right one is IJ, and the left one I believe is a mix. Probably IJxNorthern.


That was my guess. "Pure" is a tough word to use with skinks where the parents are unknown or assumed. I wouldn't breed them.

KW

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:44 pm
by vincenzoo
NomadOfTheHills wrote:They are both IJx Northern?


Either way, nice skinks.


Yes, they're brother & sister...

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:48 pm
by NomadOfTheHills
Its interesting how one looks like an IJ and one looks like a hybrid.

Zach, maybe you should include something like this picture on the caresheet (with permission of course).

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:47 am
by vincenzoo

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:56 am
by Leigh
Good link that, not being able to read Dutch doesnt help, nice but strange markings and patterns on a few of those, lovely pink tongues though.

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:20 am
by vincenzoo
they're named like intermedia but I there's skinks wich look like eastern other like northern... But patternless are pretty! I don't know from wich subspecies do they come but, they're cute!

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:18 pm
by Zach
NomadOfTheHills wrote:Its interesting how one looks like an IJ and one looks like a hybrid.

Zach, maybe you should include something like this picture on the caresheet (with permission of course).



Defintely! The one has checkered legs, and the other has almost clean legs....I should know better though, because Maggie Moe Dee has completely clean front legs and her other siblings didn't... Ugh, this is why mixes stink.

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:19 pm
by Zach
Whoaaa, are those patternless the same as the one's being sold int he classifieds I wonder? I thought there were only a couple that looked like that, but there's 4 int hat picture! s

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:31 pm
by Drew
the patternless on the link looks col, but i guess would still go for the "patterned" ones
are the skinks on the link WC? i think almost all of it are mixes.

how big are your new purchases?

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:29 pm
by kman1247
your avatr scares me :panic: