Out door enclosure materials

[Blotch]

I know that pine and treated pine are not recommended for substrates or Entire enclosures - but what's the opinion on using pine as a frame for an outdoor enclosure?

Logically the whole smell thing would be nullified due to the openess of the cage - anyone have a conflicting view to this? if so please state it - I'm gonna build and outdoor within the next couple of days for my easterns and if any one with ideas or suggestions would put them forward i'd be very appreciative.

[Helikaon]

i thnk you be right using any wood as long as you seal it or it will just rot what sorta of design are you going for. theres lots of little things i dont like about mine.

[Blotch]

I'm actually goin for a very simillar setup to you!

Can you take some better pics for me?

[Helikaon]

msot certainly can, do you mind if i wait till during the day cause my camera sucks and the flash stuffs everything up. i'll grab the dimensions for you if you like. hahah it only cost me like 35 bucks to build to.

jsut to things i want to fix mine up with is i should have probably built in a roof on one half and somewhere for them to get off the ground during the rain, like a ramp to a hid box or something, i also need to find some more flat rocks for basking. but once you get the frame going its easy as pie to build.

[shingleback aus]

ill take some pics this of the pit this long weekend

[Blotch]

sweet! Will take that into consideration!

[Helikaon]

ill take some pics this of the pit this long weekend

yeah your pit has been mentioned i can wait for pics though

had any luck breeding your shingles in it yet?

[shingleback aus]

no luck with the shingles yet there much harder to breed then easterns

[Helikaon]

indeed thats why i am trying to prepare myself well ahead. do you reckon id have more luck if i housed them internally

[shingleback aus]

maybe well thats the only thing left to do its worth a try

[Helikaon]

hmm yeah i havnt tried breeding them yet only jsut got them a few months ago and they were housed outdoors, there is supposed to be a pair in there. the guy i bought theoff was from their area and he jsut had out door pits and they bred well. but it is alot drier there then here

[shingleback aus]

i have only had mine for about a year. i think shinglebacks need to bond for long time before they mate and a big part is if you have a male and female do you know for sure the sex of your shingles?

[Helikaon]

nope nope nope but my educated guess is 2 males and a female. now supposedly 2 of these have bonded. oddly enough they are the 2 always together in a hide. but also odd is that the breeder was of the belief that the 2 i think are boys were girls and the 1 i think is a girl is the boy. hmm but yes i am pretty certain there is atleast one boy and one girl there

[Blotch]

I've heard that keeping them inside is better for shingles cuz it's warmer. not sure if it's true - but the people that have told me that have bred theirs, so i'd take their word and give it a go.

ShinglebackAu - I look forward to seeing your pics mate!

[shingleback aus]

yeah shingles are sooks i tryed putting them in the outdoor pit but eddy almost drowned and lilly was getting her big head stuck in everything i bring them inside at night and put them outside supervised once a week for exercise

[Blotch]

hahah - shingles - Excersise? Not likely!

[Scotts1au]

What about plain old second hand hardwood, dirt cheap from a building recycling place and might last 10 years or more in the elements with no copper chrome arsenate to worry about. Can be a bit hard to work with worth a thought. Looks a bit agricultural but does the job. (my other nursery cage is made out of an old drawer with metal flywire lid) and $3 hinges.

In the babies current cage I fixed the wire, plastic sheet lining to stop climbing with a heavy duty staple gun with 10mm long HD staples. I attached some shadecloth to the base to prevent digging or any chance of escape if my workmanship falls appart . Total material costs would have been about $50, wire, plastic sheeting, shadecloth, staples, hinges, latch.

I placed free draining soil in the enclosure to raise the level about the surroundings. Substrate is good old gum leaves. Sounds a bit Ocka but does the job well.

Scott

[Richard.C]

shingles do fine out doors in dry enough areas,along the east coast of aus is way to humid for open air keeping out doors,hence the need for indoors keeping,unless u set up to keep them dry out doors,mine have always been indoors,breed very well to,still possable ill have my pr produce for the 5th year straight,good luck with your stumpers guys

[Richard.C]

u should see male shingles at mating time blotch,friggen hypo,never sit still,lol,pine is fine for outdoor cages,i use pine and hardwood for my outdoor cage,you have seen mine i believe on here,but yeah,pine is more a worry for indoor caging id imagine,and for like tradeys who have to cut it all the time,exposing them selves to the baddness in side it so to speak

[Blotch]

apparently treated pine isn't treated with psyonide any more. just on the subject of health effect for humans.

Richard - your Kimbo looks nice! where is that one from?