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Paper Bark Substrate?>??
Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 11:26 am
by jojo
Hi Everyone,Can I use Paper Bark Bark as flooring for my BTS?????
Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 12:03 pm
by Lucifer_Spades
I would think it wouldn't be too absorbant, so I wouldn't use it myself.
Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 1:33 pm
by Shellyjean
Personally I've never heard of paper bark. Is that something like carefresh? I think the most popular are aspen or carefresh.
Do you have any pics of your bluey?
Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 6:07 pm
by Lucifer_Spades
paper bark is a type of tree bark
and yes, Pics???
Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 8:00 pm
by KyleWeiss
...er... "Paper Bark?"
KW
Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 9:44 pm
by mouseinamilkbottle
I think a big problem would be hygiene - you don't know what the bark has on it.
Also, you don't know what it has IN it - bugs, spiders, etc could all be living in the layers. And if they're in egg or larval form, you may not even be able to see them with the naked eye.
A recycled paper cat litter is a hygienic, environmentally friendly and cheap alternative. Try Dr Harry's Light and Easy or the Coles recycled paper brand. They're flaked, and are great for your skink to burrow in. If you can't find those, try Breeder's Choice. It's also recycled paper, just pelleted, instead of flaked.
Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 9:49 pm
by mouseinamilkbottle
KyleWeiss wrote:...er... "Paper Bark?"

KW
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melaleuca
Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 5:54 am
by jojo
Thanks for the advice I won't use it! Paper Bark,No pics yet-but will soon! Jo
Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 7:21 pm
by KyleWeiss
Well golly, look at that!

I learned something.
KW
Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 11:08 pm
by Geoff Gates
KW,
Just another magnificent Aussie native plant.
Jojo,
I've used paperbark for babies to hide under... it's not much chop as a substrate though.
Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 1:44 pm
by KyleWeiss
Geoff Gates wrote:KW,
Just another magnificent Aussie native plant.
Indeed! I shouldn't have been shocked, but your country produces quite a few curiosities I'm relatively into and fascinated by.
KW
Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 2:52 pm
by Lucifer_Spades
KyleWeiss wrote:Geoff Gates wrote:KW,
Just another magnificent Aussie native plant.
Indeed! I shouldn't have been shocked, but your country produces quite a few curiosities I'm relatively into and fascinated by.

KW
The bark is similar to the paper bark birch here in the states it too sheds a thin papery bark thaat you can peel off
Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 6:07 pm
by Fatal_S
Lucifer_Spades wrote:KyleWeiss wrote:Geoff Gates wrote:KW,
Just another magnificent Aussie native plant.
Indeed! I shouldn't have been shocked, but your country produces quite a few curiosities I'm relatively into and fascinated by.

KW
The bark is similar to the paper bark birch here in the states it too sheds a thin papery bark thaat you can peel off
As a question, does peeling more than a bit kill the tree like it does a birch? Also, is it as easily flamable? And what do the trees look like (similar to a birch)? I'm just curious ^.^
Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 6:17 pm
by Lisa
No it doesn't kill the tree, they actually shed it in big strips. A paper bark is a type of gum, or eucalyptus, tree. But there are hundreds of types of gum trees. It's no more flammable than any other dried out leaves or branches. Gum trees themselves do burn up pretty good in bushfires, but that's because of the oils in the leaves.
I've used paperbark as tank accessories, in that I chuck bits in there for them to walk and crawl over and under, but not as a substrate as such.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 1:31 pm
by KyleWeiss
Don't gum trees have varying levels of toxicity, though? ...and would it effect blueys in any way since they are native to the area as well? Would it effect blueys at all?
KW
Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 4:35 am
by Geoff Gates
KyleWeiss wrote:Don't gum trees have varying levels of toxicity, though? ...and would it effect blueys in any way since they are native to the area as well? Would it effect blueys at all?

KW
KW,
There are Eucalyptus (gum) trees all over Australia. They drop their leaves all year round and create the leaf layer in many woodlands that blueys hide/sleep in. They don't bother blueys at all, infact I sometimes use the dried leaves as substrate indoors.
BTW. Melaleucas (paperbarks) are not gum trees. Both are from the Myrtaceae family but they have completely different flower formations.
Melaleucas are much closer related to Callistemons both have a very similar bottlebrush flower arrangement but the stamens are slightly different. There is currently a debate in botanical circles whether they are actually the same.
Have a look here
http://asgap.org.au/mel-cal.html
Cheers,
Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:35 am
by Blotch
wheni was a youngster I used to eat paper bark. don't ask me why - i just did.
I use the breeders choice recycled kitty litter stuff.
http://www.fibrecycle.com.au you can get it in the states and worldwide. Check that website to find out where it is in your country.
BTW - I know you're in QLD jojo! Just letting the yanks know too!

Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 12:30 pm
by KyleWeiss
Ohhhhh take that smartypants Lisa!

Not gum trees! Not gum trees!
I kind of figured gums wouldn't bother blueys at all but hey, might as well ask the natives.
KW