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Postby Tigergenesis » Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:31 pm

Zach wrote:IAMS is the highest quality food you can get at your average grocery store. It's also the only type that doesn't have By-products I believe.... (in most average stores)

It's not near as good as the other specialty foods frequently talked about.


That it is....but that doesn't say much. Iams is a poor diet in my opinion and there are so many better options. I would never buy a petfood at the grocery store - they are basically the worst choices. It's a big name so people think it's great and the best. They use a lot of corn, by-products and fillers and more. http://www.pets.ca/forum/showthread.php ... light=iams
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Postby Zach » Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:58 pm

My advice: Go for Spot's Stew. I'm stoked to have it locally. Only downer....it's only at Petco. Ugh, where do we give and take? Just buy bad food at stores we like, or buy good food at stores we hate? :oi:

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Postby Dragontears » Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:32 pm

Zach wrote:My advice: Go for Spot's Stew. I'm stoked to have it locally. Only downer....it's only at Petco. Ugh, where do we give and take? Just buy bad food at stores we like, or buy good food at stores we hate? :oi:


if you buy good food at stores you hate, they might get the idea and carry more stuff you like....maybe even clean up their act.


We can dream right? ;)
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Postby Tigergenesis » Sat Jun 09, 2007 7:24 pm

So have you bought any yet Zach?
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Postby Tigergenesis » Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:19 am

A lab report provided by a reader indicates that a sample of Country Value Puppy formula exported from the US contained melamine. The report obtained and translated by Itchmo states that the sample was tested by a South Korean university’s veterinary research center. This report has not been verified in the US. Country Value is also sold in the US, but has not been recalled. This is also the first report of a lab — besides Expertox in Texas — reporting on possible contamination of unrecalled pet food. Jim Fallon, a spokesman for Diamond Pet Foods, said that the food with the best by date of March 2008 was made in September 2006 at their South Carolina plant. The lab reported finding melamine concentrations of 346.21 parts per million, a number that is higher than the amounts typically found through cross contamination according to the manufacturer Diamond Pet Food. Fallon also said that they have received no calls regarding Country Value through their recall hotlines. Diamond is working on pulling the retained samples and will test them for melamine and says they will pursue this “aggressively and cautiously.” Full story here: http://www.itchmo.com/read/melamine-rep ... d_20070608
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Postby Zach » Mon Jun 11, 2007 3:12 am

Tigergenesis wrote:So have you bought any yet Zach?



Of course! It's far superior than anything in grocery stores by looks alone...

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Postby Leigh » Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:12 am

Judging books by thier covers, how scientific, hee,hee
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Postby Zach » Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:26 am

:lazy: I mean the food. A spammy, smelly mess compared to chunky, vegetably, soup-smelling goodness. :knewthat:

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Postby Tigergenesis » Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:42 pm

Kitten dies from malamine in its cat food http://www.ktvz.com/Global/story.asp?S=6640797

This kitty was in Oregon. :(
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Postby Zach » Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:01 pm

Only an hour and 45 min away.... :( ....and I was just there yesterday.

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Postby Tigergenesis » Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:47 am

NJ Lawmakers Considering Aggrieved Pet Owners Right To Sue


The New Jersey legislature is considering legislation granting owners of pets harmed by contaminated pet food the right to sue for the loss of companionship and claim damages of up to $15,000, according to the American Veterinary Medical Association.

An article titled “Adulterated Pet Food Could Lead To The Loss of Companionship Suits in New Jersey” by R. Scott Nolen appears in the July, 2007 issue of JAVMA News. http://www.avma.org/onlnews/javma/jul07/070715a.asp

The measure, passed unanimously by the Assembly Agriculture and Natural Resources Committee in late May, is the latest effort to let aggrieved pet owners sue for non-economic damages when a pet is hurt or killed.

If the bill were enacted, New Jersey would join Illinois and Tennessee as the only states allowing such lawsuits, in limited circumstances.

Assembly Deputy Speaker Neil Cohen introduced the legislation (A.B. 4217) in the wake of the massive recall of adulterated pet food begun by Menu Foods Inc., a Canadian-based manufacturer. More than 100 brands were found to have been adulterated by melamine, which is associated with kidney problems in cats and dogs. At least 50 class action lawsuits have been filed against Menu Foods.

Under U.S. law, animals are classified as property. Although animal abuse or theft of pets can result in criminal charges with fines and even jail time, civil law allows plaintiffs to recover only economic damages when a pet is hurt or killed.

Few pet owners understand their rights to compensation when a pet is harmed, but the recall has brought national attention to a legal standard that’s seeing more challenges in state legislatures, said Joyce Tischler, executive director of the Animal Legal Defense Fund.

“Animal lives are valued so low at this point that many pet owners are deprived of the opportunity to protect their animals, as they presume they can. That’s why a lot of this legislation is occurring—pet owners are incensed that when something happens to a pet and then they attempt to sue, they realize, ‘My pet was worth nothing in the eyes of the law,’” Tischler said.

Cohen’s bill would clear the way for suits against the manufacturer, producer, and distributor of adulterated pet food, or any other person who caused or contributed to the contamination that resulted in a pet’s illness or death. Persons who had a “duty” to act to prevent illness, injury, or death of a pet from adulterated pet food could likewise be sued.

In addition to compensation for loss of companionship, plaintiffs may recoup expenses related to veterinary care and training, and any unique or special value of the pet, such as a service or show animal, with total damages not exceeding $15,000.

The assemblyman was prompted to introduce the legislation after he saw that many stores still stocked brands of recalled pet food, according to Gleshia Givens, Cohen’s director of legislative service. “He started going to all these different stores, just buying the food so other people wouldn’t purchase them for their pets,” Givens explained, adding that Cohen is himself a pet owner.

Veterinary associations such as the AVMA and New Jersey VMA oppose noneconomic rewards for pet injury or death, saying they will drive up the cost of veterinary care and lead to frivolous lawsuits (see the AVMA Policy on Compensatory Values for Animals Beyond Their Property Value).

“Although the bill is specific to animals that were harmed or died as a result of contaminated pet food, it’d be an easy jump to go from that to loss of companionship of an animal from other causes, such as a vaccine reaction or a surgery that did not go well and the patient died,” explained Richard Alampi, NJVMA executive director.

Originally, the bill set no limit on damages. But after the NJVMA and AVMA expressed reservations about the legislation, Cohen amended the proposal by capping damages at $15,000 and removing language referring to emotional distress suffered by the pet owner or immediate family.

The Pet Food Institute, representing manufacturers, also opposes the bill because it singles out pet food with respect to liability and introduces the legal question of the value of a pet, explained PFI President Duane Ekedahl. The PFI board has not taken a position on the economic value of a pet in civil suits, he said, but it is currently evaluating the unintended consequences of litigation that includes personal loss and suffering when a pet is harmed.

“We need to better understand the effect of such potential penalties on pet owners, the pet community, and veterinarians with respect to malpractice insurance,” Ekedahl said.

Alampi is pleased that Cohen is willing to work with the NJVMA but worries the bill could be pushed through the Assembly. “Because of the concerns the veterinary profession has expressed, I would certainly hope that this bill is not fast-tracked to a point where we cannot try to reason with (Cohen),” he said.

At press time in June, the bill was not scheduled for a vote in the Assembly, nor was there a companion bill in the state senate. Alampi wondered how much attention the measure would receive, given the legislature’s current focus on passing a state budget and the coming November elections, along with a traditionally slow summer session.

If New Jersey were to sanction noneconomic damages for pets, Tischler of the ALDF doesn’t expect a flurry of similar bills in other state legislatures. But when U.S. consumers are spending billions of dollars on their pets annually, it shouldn’t be all that surprising when some pet owners believe their companion is worth more than the law allows.

“What veterinarians are not looking at is Americans do value their animals more highly than they used to, and because of that, the veterinary community has seen an increase in income,” Tischler said. “But these noneconomic lawsuits are the other side of that double-edged sword.”

To access AVMA resource specific to the pet food recall and noneconomic damages, visit www.avma.org/advocacy/state/issues/defa ... ned_recall. 7-05-07
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Postby Tigergenesis » Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:55 pm

China executes top drug official http://www.hindu.com/2007/07/11/stories ... 601800.htm

Pet Food Company Denies Claim for Dead Dog http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2 ... lls60.html
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Postby Funda » Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:47 pm

Stupid Nutro Max pet food.
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I reckon that Jerri does have a point.
Her story makes alot of sence.

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Postby Tigergenesis » Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:54 am

American Bullie Dog Chew products - the FDA not only found salmonella in the products, but they noted that the company had other violations. The company was found to be dipping their products in bleach. http://itchmo.com/read/fda-warning-lett ... s_20070710
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Postby Leigh » Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:59 am

Cant knock that Chinese punishment, he wont make that mistake again, heh.
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Postby Tigergenesis » Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:06 am

Leigh wrote:Cant knock that Chinese punishment, he wont make that mistake again, heh.


LOL. Good one!
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Postby Arkangel » Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:11 pm

Tigergenesis wrote:American Bullie Dog Chew products - the FDA not only found salmonella in the products, but they noted that the company had other violations. The company was found to be dipping their products in bleach. http://itchmo.com/read/fda-warning-lett ... s_20070710


Regardless of the company, all rawhide is chemically processed unless you buy it from an organic or natural source. First the hides are soaked in either an Ash-Lye solution, lime solution, or another strong base or caustic chemical. The hide soaks for approximately 3 days in the lye solution, then the hair or fur is scraped off. The lime solution is the quickest and most often utilized by manufacturers. They use ordinary builder's grade powdered lime.

To remove all traces of the lye or lime solution and to sanitize and whiten the rawhide product, commercial makers then usually rinse the hides in a bleach solution.

Rawhide is bad for dogs whether it is bleached or not. If you use naturally made rawhide, be very diligent about how much time the dog is allowed to chew it and monitor it carefully.
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Postby Tigergenesis » Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:00 am

I never give Kira Rawhide. I gave it to my boxers years ago until I read up on them and learned what you just shared.

China recalls hit home http://www.dailyherald.com/story.asp?id=331539
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Postby Leigh » Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:07 am

Tigergenesis wrote:I never give Kira Rawhide. I gave it to my boxers years ago until I read up on them and learned what you just shared.

China recalls hit home http://www.dailyherald.com/story.asp?id=331539


It really is quite scarey what gets through, I cant believe they're moaning at the cost to put it right, what cost to them would stopping all Chinese imports worldwide be?
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